Posts by Sail Away

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CAH closing down in upstate NY

by oppostate in

yet another circuit assembly hall is going to be sold off!.

they've been reducing the amount of congregations assigned to meet there and using the times when it isn't in use to make repairs.

elders have now been informed that they are selling off the property and buildings and that circuits would be assigned to attend other sites, twice as far, three or four hours away, like montreal.

Sail Away

My JW in-laws live in upstate NY. Where is this CAH located?

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Conn. Firefighter Who Is Jehovah's Witness Files Federal Discrimination Lawsuit

by Bangalore in

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conn. firefighter who is jehovah's witness files federal discrimination lawsuit.

http://www.ctlawtribune.com/id=1202722980377/conn-firefighter-who-is-jehovahs-witness-files-federal-discrimination-lawsuit#ixzz3xhkbpznt.

I knew the plaintiff personally. I knew him to be a kind and sincere family man and elder. He was under great emotional stress dealing with his work situation while trying to support his family and be an elder.

If anyone's motives are to be questioned, it would be his attorney. He is an elder as well. He told me he used to be a Bethel commuter for legal in Brooklyn. He got out of that obligation by sending his associate in his place. His name is widely spread in the circuit, so I was referred to him regarding a legal matter. When I didn't like his tactics, he exaggerated his time and expenses exorbitantly and refused to return my retainer.

Also, he manages to stay an elder even though his daughter is studying to be a pediatrician and his son openly plans to attend law school. These facts have been documented in local newspapers. As always, position and privilege go hand in hand in the organization.

I looked this man straight in the face and told him he wasn't the man he pretended to be. That was before I woke up to TTAT.

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Has anybody been guilted/emotionally blackmailed into attending the 2015 Memorial?

by Bucholz in

hello everybody, i was wondering if anyone has been guilted or emotionally blackmailed into attending the memorial this year.

something along the lines of "if you loved your family you would at least attend the memorial".

i myself haven't attended in 5 years.

Sail Away

I wasn't invited last year and likely won't be invited this year. My neighbor told me that the last time the JWs were in our neighborhood they didn't go to my door. I'm good with that! I wouldn't go if they paid me buckets o' money!

Now here's a Full Moon Party for ya:

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Nightline program with segment on JWs has been changed until tomorrow night.

by AndersonsInfo in

i was at a criminal trial all day in murfreesboro, tn, involving the notorious jw who i call "mommy molester," angela montgomery.

this is the reason i didn't know until this evening that the nightline program with the segment on jws was changed until tomorrow night.

(i forgot my phone.

Sail Away

Did anyone notice that they referenced Shepherd the Flock of God?

More of Jehovah's Witnesses Statement to ABC News Regarding This Report:

As you are aware, it would be inappropriate for us to comment on cases currently in litigation. However, in addition to the statement we previously provided, please allow us to make the following points.

We abhor the sexual abuse of children, and we do not protect any perpetrator of such repugnant acts from the consequences of his gross sin and crime. – Romans 12:9.

Our current and long-standing policy is clearly stated in the publication “Shepherd the Flock of God”—1 Peter 5:2, in which elders are provided the following direction:

“Child abuse is a crime. Never suggest to anyone that they should not report an allegation of child abuse to the police or other authorities. If you are asked, make it clear that whether to report the matter to the authorities or not is a personal decision for each individual to make and that there are no congregation sanctions for either decision. Elders will not criticize anyone who reports such an allegation to the authorities. If the victim wishes to make a report, it is his or her absolute right to do so.”—“Shepherd the Flock of God”—1 Peter 5:2, chap. 12, pp. 131-132, par. 19.

Seeking legal advice is a vital element of handling sensitive matters responsibly. Thus, for decades our elders have been instructed to contact our Legal Department whenever they learn of an allegation of child abuse. We do this, not to hide the crime and the sin, but rather to ensure that our elders strictly comply with child-abuse reporting laws.

By means of our Bible-based publications, our religious services, and our website jw.org., Jehovah’s Witnesses have also consistently warned congregation members and the public of the need to protect their children from the horrific crime of child sexual abuse. We encourage anyone who wishes to understand our position to visit our website jw.org., and search the term “child abuse.”

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Rational Buddhism?

by cappytan in

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does a type of buddhism exist that doesn't include the metaphysical aspects of traditional buddhism?

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Sail Away

The Interdependence Project of New York City offers online courses in secular Buddhism.

www.theidproject.org

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Rational Buddhism?

by cappytan in

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does a type of buddhism exist that doesn't include the metaphysical aspects of traditional buddhism?

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Sail Away

The Insight Meditation Society in Barre, MA USA teaches secular Buddhism. Its roots are in Theraveda Buddhism, but the teachers at IMS focus on Vipassana (insight) and Metta (loving kindness) meditation practices and do not identify with any particular Buddhist lineage.

Secular Western Buddhist Vipassana teachings are offered freely at www.dharmaseed.org

Jack Kornfield is an IMS meditation teacher. For those interested in Buddhist psychology, his book entitled, The Wise Heart, A guide to the Universal Teachings of Buddhist Psychology is a must read.

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I need your advice

by cookiemaster in

i need some advice.

actually my friend needs some advice.

a few years ago i moved about 50 km (30 miles) away from the nearest congo and have since tried to live a normal life.

Sail Away

Can your friend play the stress/anxiety/depression card? That's been working for me for nearly four years. I stalled the first three attempts to meet with my two-elder JW hit squad. They just showed up at my door at random times when the weather was bad, so I stepped out on the porch to chat ever so briefly with them about their families, etc. I haven't heard from them since they dropped off my copy of the RNWT. The last time they were working the street I was home, and no one came to my door. Don't give them any ammunition. If you don't meet with them, the next move could be an "invitation" to a JC. Delay the meeting and don't talk about anything of substance. KISS.

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Introducing myself

by maksutov in

my name is russ, i'm 40 years old, from the uk, and i left the jws nearly 5 years ago.

i've been a member of the yuku board throughout that time, so there are probably some on here who know me already.

there seems to be more activity over here at the moment, so i thought i'd pop in and say hi.i was raised as a jw, started questioning it when i was 16, but there was no internet back then (well, no www anyway) so i got sucked right in and got baptized when i was 18. auxiliary pioneered on and off for a couple of years, then became a ministerial servant.

Sail Away

Maksutov
Doubts came back again, and I stepped down again. Got really depressed and tried very hard to re-convince myself that it was "the truth", without much success. Eventually admitted to myself that I no longer believed, and felt the weight lift off my shoulders - no more depression (I was "cured by Satan" according to my dad). Stopped going to meetings in 2010, and started reading apostate stuff. Now I'm a sceptic, atheist, humanist, human being.

Welcome, Russ! Nice to see you over here! It's amazing how lifelong depression can lift once we accept what we truly believe and act on it!

I like your description of yourself. The Borg strips many of their humanity, turning them into corporate drones. The kind-hearted ones seem to escape. I think with you as a Dad, your daughter will be just fine. Once I finally woke up, both of my kids told me that they knew everything I had ever done was out of love. Your daughter knows that too.

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No... I wasn't mind controlled

by Zoos in

thou shalt not stay at a hotel that is not on the rooming list.

work prevented me from attending our assigned district (regional) convention so i arranged my schedule to attend in a different city/weekend.

i know that's not a problem, brothers and sisters do it all the time.

Sail Away

GrreatTeacher, the stated reasoning behind the pack your own lunch directive was simplification. Eliminating food service would allow "the friends" to enjoy the full program uninterrupted. Also, we were told to pack simple, light lunches, so that we would have just what we liked and needed to be fully alert for the afternoon program.

There was a lot of emphasis on staying on the premises for lunch. We were supposed to ''enjoy fellowship with our brothers" by having our lunch in our seats at the DC or in the lunch room at the CA or SAD rather than going out to eat.

We were even counselled not to purchase food from vendors on the premises, which made absolutely no sense given their stated reasoning. I believed at the time it was because too many were leaving the premises and returning late for the program.

As a mom with two children, it was a real hardship to pack lunches for multiple days and store them in a cooler in the car. By the last day of the DC, everything was a warm soggy mess. Shopping for and packing lunches was the last thing I wanted to do in addition to all the necessary chores to get there on time properly dressed with fully stocked book bags, but alas, I was the good dub. I even felt guilty when I bought a cup of coffee from an on-site vendor just so I could stay awake for the afternoon session. Sigh.

I had my first panic attack at a DC. Enough said.

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No... I wasn't mind controlled

by Zoos in

thou shalt not stay at a hotel that is not on the rooming list.

work prevented me from attending our assigned district (regional) convention so i arranged my schedule to attend in a different city/weekend.

i know that's not a problem, brothers and sisters do it all the time.

Sail Away

jhine, this is no joke. The last hotel on the recommended lodging list that I stayed in was a hell hole, I was afraid for my safety, and my locked car was broken into and robbed.

The list would be posted on the "information board" (horrors if you said bulletin board). We would have to stand in line at the end of the meeting and copy down hotel names and phone numbers. No one was allowed to make a copy of the list. Then you couldn't call until after ten the next morning, and often had to speak to the person in charge of reserved blocks of rooms. The phone number was often busy, and by the time you got through the rooms were all gone. Then you had to wait for the next list to be posted.

I had a UBM and had to manage driving two young children to distant rooms, often an hour away. The rooms were no cheaper. Back in the day we had to send a deposit check in the mail. Now I understand there is a special website set up for reserving recommended rooms at the JW rate which is often not a bargain rate at all. It's all about the organization making money off the rank and file. Somehow all the elders families that I knew stayed in the nicest, closest rooms on the list.

Mind controlled much? Absolutely!